Practical Thoughts on Navigating Divisions


We live amidst profound cultural and spiritual divisions but can feel adrift in terms of what to do about it apart from judging people across the divide from us.

Historic spiritual wisdom does have some thoughts, some of which turn out to be quite practical. Dave Schmelzer walks us through a provocative case study with insights from Franciscans, Zen thinkers, and psychologists, along with his own experiences.

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Not the Religious Type and Blue Ocean Faith, by Dave Schmelzer, and Further Along the Road Less Traveled, by M. Scott Peck as books that discuss the stage theory we look at here.

The Wisdom Pattern, by Richard Rohr

The many books of Ken Wilber (here's one that addresses things on this podcast)

Weekly online groups (and a Sunday service) around these things that you should totally check out. More info at